Thursday, March 12, 2009

Atheism's Victory

Two takes on the ARIS poll. Albert Mohler and CNN.

From Mohler:
"Now, these researchers argue that the numbers of Americans represented by those who identify as "Born Again" Christians (34%) and those who reject the existence of any personal God (25-30%) are now almost even"
What we are seeing is a move from "cultural Christians" to atheists (or "non-theistic spiritualists" aka "mushy atheists"). This is not mass de-conversion, but the growing acceptance of atheism allowing people to be more honest.

From a Biblical point of view, this is quite reasonable. It is only post-millennial theology which created the expectation of Christian victory on earth. The Bible consistently talks of God saving "a remnant".

My challenge to atheists is, "how will you defeat Islam?"

(Cultural) Christianity was a pushover. Only the continuation of post-millennialism, and nation-churches allowed for such over-inflated numbers of "Christians". The transition to the "new" atheism has been fairly easy.

But Islam doesn't play the same game.

Mohler didn't comment, but from CNN:
"The percentage of Muslims has doubled since 1990, but remains statistically very small, only 0.3 percent in the original survey and 0.6 percent today."
Two points:

First, the Koran is basically a textbook for conversion of an entire society to Islam. The current numbers alone should reinforce that. With less than 1% of the population, Islam is already starting to have an impact on our culture (look for all the halal stores near you). Islam will continue to grow through population (atheists do not reproduce much), and conversion (especially in the growing prison population).

Second, Islam is not friendly to atheism. Only the freedom allowed by "Christian nations" has permitted atheism to become acceptable. Once in power, atheists will be second class citizens - along with Jews and Christians.

The usual tactics (ridicule of sacred texts, rejection of miracles, appeals to reason and logic) will not work. Islam makes assertions, and any disagreement is simply rejected.

Once in power, conversion by the sword is permitted.

The same people who became "cultural Christians" will become "cultural Muslims".

3 comments:

Alan said...

Hmmm, a bit like early christianity by the sounds of it. The only way forward is for sensible people everywhere to be rid of this religious rubbish and to honestly admit it publicly.

nedbrek said...

But, it is largely a cultural thing. No Muslim will reject his faith, as long as his neighbors will react negatively (shunning at first, in later stages - death).

As I said, "The usual tactics (ridicule of sacred texts, rejection of miracles, appeals to reason and logic) will not work."

Alan said...

"As I said, "The usual tactics (ridicule of sacred texts, rejection of miracles, appeals to reason and logic) will not work."

Why is that? Why are they SO pigheaded, blinkered, blind to reason and resistant to appeals to reason and LOGIC? When someone presents a cogent, logical and sensible argument it deserves consideration not instant dismissal because it conflicts with bind faith usually handed down by equally narrow minded elders.