tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8362232927871759836.post3550976082575722917..comments2023-03-31T04:48:58.366-07:00Comments on Ned's Faith Mumblings: Global Warmingismnedbrekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13484011165536152141noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8362232927871759836.post-30005048433041657702007-12-23T08:04:00.000-08:002007-12-23T08:04:00.000-08:00Nope, I was talking about what you are talking abo...Nope, I was talking about what you are talking about. Some groups do plant trees, others do research into sustainable energy. I still fail to see how this relates to indulgences, except very loosely. Yes, there are some operational costs, but that's the price of business. Indulgences were skimmed (or simply outright taken by the person selling them) and that was it. No good was ever done. It was a scam from the beginning. The carbon credit is actually used to do some good. You wish to malign the people who are setting out to make the Earth more habitable (or at least fight against the rest of the world who are trying to screw up the planet) and compare them to a corrupt magistrate that took people's money (and kept it) for promises of which they knew they could not keep? How odd.GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8362232927871759836.post-64498062142991582352007-12-22T15:34:00.000-08:002007-12-22T15:34:00.000-08:00I think you are talking about a system of credits ...I think you are talking about a system of credits between nations. If you google for "carbon credits" you will be given many links for individuals to buy credits.<BR/><BR/>These credits are often used to planet trees in third world nations or remove carbon producing fuels from the market.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the companies offering these credits skim off some amount for "operational costs". That is the parallel to indulgences.nedbrekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13484011165536152141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8362232927871759836.post-75732377435898559152007-12-22T05:23:00.000-08:002007-12-22T05:23:00.000-08:00Carbon credits are supposed to be used for researc...Carbon credits are supposed to be used for research into sustainable energy and reducing our carbon footprint. If that is not being done, then you are entirely correct. If it is being done, then your analogy is off. Should carbon credits exempt one from trying to reduce one's footprint? No, of course not. But, it's not quite the same as do nothing indulgences if some actual good comes out of it.GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8362232927871759836.post-54415478037440999682007-12-21T16:42:00.000-08:002007-12-21T16:42:00.000-08:00The question isn't if temperatures are increasing,...The question isn't if temperatures are increasing, or even if we are at fault.<BR/><BR/>The question is: "Can we do anything about it?"<BR/><BR/>Al Gore's movie show carbon and temperature increasing due to the beginning of the industrial age (late 1800's). If there is a real problem, reduction to 1990's levels won't help (and China is not going to cooperate).<BR/><BR/>Regardless of what happens, "carbon credits" are a feel good measure (and a profit center). Yet another works righteousness religion.<BR/><BR/>And I haven't denied evolution, I've just "lost faith" :)nedbrekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13484011165536152141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8362232927871759836.post-49825705257937045122007-12-21T15:36:00.000-08:002007-12-21T15:36:00.000-08:00First it's evolution denial, and now global warmin...First it's evolution denial, and now global warming denial?GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.com